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whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pressure, but there are a few. and the president's going to have to work hard, find points of pressure on those people. >> and willing to absorb some blows. >> remember when he ran against hillary clinton and beat her. hillary clinton had a great idea, self-reliance
whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be...
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today mitch mcconnell did not signal, a big surprise, he was ready to compromise. the tree stump ain't moving. let's listen. >> the time for the president to lead is now, and that means offering a concrete plan that takes into account the fact that half the congress opposes tax hikes. not because we're selfish, not because we're stubborn, but we know it is the wrong thing to do. we know it will hurt the economy, and we know it will destroy jobs. >> you know, the nonsense behind that, guys, is that if you go by who we elect to congress deciding our national policy, then by that standard heidi heitkamp winning in north dakota means north dakota is a liberal state, and tester winning in montana means that's a democratic state or that mccaskill winning missouri -- no, that's not how we vote. we vote nationally for the president, and we have an electoral college to decide it. let me go back to dennis. give us your sense, the nea is filled with very lit rat, very smart people with tremendous understandings of the public policy. what does your rank and file like to see ge
today mitch mcconnell did not signal, a big surprise, he was ready to compromise. the tree stump ain't moving. let's listen. >> the time for the president to lead is now, and that means offering a concrete plan that takes into account the fact that half the congress opposes tax hikes. not because we're selfish, not because we're stubborn, but we know it is the wrong thing to do. we know it will hurt the economy, and we know it will destroy jobs. >> you know, the nonsense behind...
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>> john mccain and myself we will introduce a resolution asking the majority leader, mitch mcconnell to do a select committee. why do you need one? the state department is under the foreign operations committee foreign relations committee oversight. department of defense is under armed service. if you have three different committees interviewing people separately we won't know what one group will significant sailing. so we should form a committee over department of defense, department of the state and the c.i.a. and ask questions and have a professional approach to this. i think congress would be making a huge mistake, let three committees go off by themselves and not coordinate. >> greta: senator harry reid, his view on a select committee is what? >> i don't know. i don't believe you can get to the truth in a professional way. when you talk to the c.i.a., also you want to talk to the defense, why were these people left hanging for eight hours. the c.i.a., why did you not get ready for an attack people were telling you. state department, god knows how many times did you fail the peop
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and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied the issues, and is very, very smart. and she would get attention. >> i'm sure. >> i think it's exciting. >> definitely she'll get attention that's for sure. i'm sure from this network and everybody else. many thanks for joining us. >> okay, alex, thank you. >>> straight ahead, why is florida still counting? gether, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just re
and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied...
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now, senate republic leader mitch mcconnell says raises taxes on those businesses would cost 700,000 jobs. the president says we would simply return to the tax rates of the clinton years in which the economy created almost 8 times as many jobs as the administration of george w. bush. president will make his case to the public tomorrow and civic leaders on friday which is when these talks with congressional leaders come in. >> shepard: wendell goler on the north lawn. seven weeks isn't really seven weeks when you are talking about congress. lawmakers just got back to work today. then they are off next week for thanksgiving. then they will take a break for christmas and then time is up. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. one of the lawmakers back at work today congressman paul ryan. the republic vice presidential nominee. >> that's right, shep. paul ryan is expected to have a lot of clout after the elections. obviously a more recognizable name around the country. and he will continue on as the house budget chairman. ryan did not say a whole lot to reporters today. he seemed to be trying
now, senate republic leader mitch mcconnell says raises taxes on those businesses would cost 700,000 jobs. the president says we would simply return to the tax rates of the clinton years in which the economy created almost 8 times as many jobs as the administration of george w. bush. president will make his case to the public tomorrow and civic leaders on friday which is when these talks with congressional leaders come in. >> shepard: wendell goler on the north lawn. seven weeks isn't...
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mitch mcconnell says higher taxes won't solve that problem. >> this is partisan politics. this is not an option. raising tax rates would destroy 700,000 jobs >> reporter: on this day, the president met with labor and progressive leaders since the day after his re-election that he opposed cuts to medicare and social security benefits. >> the president is committed to making sure that the middle class and the workers are paying the tax for parties we didn't get to. >> reigning in cost of medicare and medicaid is essential to controlling the deficit. mr. obama offered $34 billion a year in savings. republicans don't think it's enough. and they're demanding to be part of the solution. >> the venters also -- the voters also have republican controlled house and closely divided senate. in a government of three equal branchs, that is hardly irrelevant. >> at the white house, despite the seeming impasse over the bush tax cut, carney insists there is flexibility dealing with the deficit. >> i don't think the president is in a position of boxing ourselves in, or boxing others out. he
mitch mcconnell says higher taxes won't solve that problem. >> this is partisan politics. this is not an option. raising tax rates would destroy 700,000 jobs >> reporter: on this day, the president met with labor and progressive leaders since the day after his re-election that he opposed cuts to medicare and social security benefits. >> the president is committed to making sure that the middle class and the workers are paying the tax for parties we didn't get to. >>...
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does she have enough influence when you counter mitch mcconnell and others? does he have enough influence to bring in others in the party who agree? >> yes. i definitely think he does. he's considered a player. he brings to the table a very, very big demographic, which is his father's list. and that's a pretty powerful thing. and what you're going to have to watch for here is the mitch mcconnells of the world, he's somebody who is going to want to may play a little bit on immigration. he faces a primary challenge. so what you're going to see is some of these guys who maybe want to soften on immigration, getting some cover from some of the other guys who will get out there in front to try to protect them so they can win their next electio elections. >> you wrote about rank and file immigration reform yesterday. it caught my eye. it is interesting from the leaders of the party who are on the radio and television meaning like a sean hannity to actual elected officials within the gop who seem they want to speed up the process in hopes of two years from now having
does she have enough influence when you counter mitch mcconnell and others? does he have enough influence to bring in others in the party who agree? >> yes. i definitely think he does. he's considered a player. he brings to the table a very, very big demographic, which is his father's list. and that's a pretty powerful thing. and what you're going to have to watch for here is the mitch mcconnells of the world, he's somebody who is going to want to may play a little bit on immigration. he...
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. >> so what is your answer to what mitch mcconnel said? go after rich people. why do it at all? >> it is good to be with you. i think that the minority leader seems to have a math problem. ending the tax cuts for the rich is worth $1 trillion. i think our government spends a little less than $1 trillion. most people think it is $800 billion. this is a ten-year number. you are $80 billion a year. and this is a outside reach. a lot of guys like myself think you are not going to get it. let me ask you this, david, we have a weak economy, i know jobs are growing but they are growing weekly. what sense does it make to raise taxes on anybody when you have such a weak economy. from a economic, not ideal logical stand n point, what sense does it make? >> well, you know larlarry, the labor movement thinks that jobs are the number one agenda here, as you well know, we have had this conversation about your need to do something to get our finances in better shape, the way to do that with the least amount of damage to our economy, is to end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy for those making
. >> so what is your answer to what mitch mcconnel said? go after rich people. why do it at all? >> it is good to be with you. i think that the minority leader seems to have a math problem. ending the tax cuts for the rich is worth $1 trillion. i think our government spends a little less than $1 trillion. most people think it is $800 billion. this is a ten-year number. you are $80 billion a year. and this is a outside reach. a lot of guys like myself think you are not going to get...
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mcconnell surprised no one by disputing the idea that any mandate exists on this issue saying "if the president truly realizes that he was elected to represent all of its citizens, not just the ones who voted to give him a second term last tuesday, then he will seek the common ground he avoided so strenuously in his first term." paul ryan went even further on a local wisconsin television station last night. he said that the american people had not rejected his budget ideas and that, in fact, it was just a certain group of voters that cost him the election. >> i don't think we lost it on the budget issues. i think people, especially on medicare, we clearly didn't lose it on those issues. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin. >> jennifer: darn, they must not have suppressed enough votes. fine republicans you keep believing it was urban turnout and not your bad ideas and we'll keep winning elections. joining me is one of the progressive leaders who was at the meeting with the presi
mcconnell surprised no one by disputing the idea that any mandate exists on this issue saying "if the president truly realizes that he was elected to represent all of its citizens, not just the ones who voted to give him a second term last tuesday, then he will seek the common ground he avoided so strenuously in his first term." paul ryan went even further on a local wisconsin television station last night. he said that the american people had not rejected his budget ideas and that,...
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wednesday, the business community and friday, there's a meeting with harry reid, mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. so, will we get a deal? one man getting a lot of attention is erskine bowles. who along with alan simpson created the simpson-bowles plan on deficit reduction. i have to start by asking you, did you ever think your name would be part of pop culture? you are the bowles in simpson bowles. >> better be simpson bowles than bowles simpson since everybody knows him by his initials here in washington. >> so, when you talk about things, sacred cows, untouchables, whatever the word might be, in your proposal, the one paul ryan decided not to back, the one barack obama decided not to back, you had an increase in the federal gasoline tax. caps on mortgage interest. charitable donations and retirement contributions. these were all tough choices you made. you also increased the eligibility age for medicare and social security. reduced benefits for wealthier seniors. some of those things i've heard democrats and republicans say they agree on, o
wednesday, the business community and friday, there's a meeting with harry reid, mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. so, will we get a deal? one man getting a lot of attention is erskine bowles. who along with alan simpson created the simpson-bowles plan on deficit reduction. i have to start by asking you, did you ever think your name would be part of pop culture? you are the bowles in simpson bowles. >> better be simpson bowles than bowles...
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mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now lead. that's an acknowledgment of reality and a bit of a trying to pass the buck, but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into those negotiations and to lead and to continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. >> but he has to lead -- >> let me help you out. >> he has to lead publicly as well because the election -- >> sell. >> he has to sell it. there aren't a lot of republicans i think at play from -- in regards to public pressure, but there are a few, and the president is going to have to work hard to find points of pressure on those people -- >> let's try -- >> they have to be willing to absorb some blows. >> remember how he ran against hillary clinton
mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now lead. that's an acknowledgment of reality and a bit of a trying to pass the buck, but it's the...
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mitch mcconnell, not minority leader, still sounds much like he sounded when obama was first elected. he doesn't sound as if he's ready to compromise. and business leaders are now saying we're ready to fix the debt problem. i want business leaders to start a campaign that says i'm ready for the president to raise my taxes. that's where they could have some real influence with the republican party i think. so when business leaders get ready to say that, i think compromise a fair and balanced compromise could be close. >> well, we didn't want business leaders to have that campaign in quiet rooms. congresswoman, cynthia, thank you so much for your time tonight. coming up, inside the petraeus investigation. we're learning much more about the two women at the center of it. nbc's national investigative correspondent meichael isikoff joins us. plus karl rove under fire from the billionaire boys club. and a new video showing president obama behind the scenes with cam been staffers. you will want to see what happens in this one. you're watching politics nation on msnbc. well, if it isn't mr. m
mitch mcconnell, not minority leader, still sounds much like he sounded when obama was first elected. he doesn't sound as if he's ready to compromise. and business leaders are now saying we're ready to fix the debt problem. i want business leaders to start a campaign that says i'm ready for the president to raise my taxes. that's where they could have some real influence with the republican party i think. so when business leaders get ready to say that, i think compromise a fair and balanced...
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mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now lead. that's an acknowledgment of reality and a bit of a trying to pass the buck, but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into those negotiations and to lead and to continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. >> but he has to lead -- >> let me help you out. >> he has to lead publicly as well because the election -- >> sell. >> he has to sell it. there aren't a lot of republicans i think at play from -- in regards to public pressure, but there are a few, and the president is going to have to work hard to find points of pressure on those people -- >> let's try -- >> they have to be willing to absorb some blows. >> remember how he ran against hillary clinton
mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now lead. that's an acknowledgment of reality and a bit of a trying to pass the buck, but it's the...
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. >> you have always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you are going to stay on and prohibit a younger leadership. >> you are suggesting that everybody step aside? >> no, i am simply saying that the younger leadership will be delayed. >> i think what you will see -- and let's for a moment honor that this is a legitimate question, although it's quite offensive, but you don't realize it, i guess. >> sean: la-ha-ha. what's with the giggles and the boos and the hisses. >> i love luke russert. i met luke. he's a really conscientious person. he said colleagues privately say. ng to him.rting what they are >> that's wrong with that. >> sean. >> they respond lie laughing-- >>> giggles. >> that's a response when have you no other response. >> sean: like joe biden -- what was that? >> i don't have a problem with anything that happened there. the one thing that i love about that clip is that there is diversity in that picture. that's what i noticed. >> oh. >> that's what i noticed. there is diversity in that picture. >> sean: i trust luke russet that has reports that people are
. >> you have always asked that question, except to mitch mcconnell. >> you are going to stay on and prohibit a younger leadership. >> you are suggesting that everybody step aside? >> no, i am simply saying that the younger leadership will be delayed. >> i think what you will see -- and let's for a moment honor that this is a legitimate question, although it's quite offensive, but you don't realize it, i guess. >> sean: la-ha-ha. what's with the giggles and...
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again, i think the problem here for the republicans is the spokespersons of the party, whether mitch mcconnell or john boehner and whoever it might be at the national level, i'm not sure who else that could be at this point, they have to understand that everybody listens now. we live in a different media age. and when you talk in very extreme voices or out-of-touch voices, you alienate voters and you don't win them back when it comes election day. >> great to see both of you. thank you. >>> also making news this morning, investigators are trying to figure out the cause of that massive explosion in indianapolis that killed two people and damaged at least 50 homes. it happened saturday night and it was heard several miles away. some residents thought it was an earthquake. officials say 31 homes may have to be demolished. >>> if you can believe it, it's been two weeks since hurricane sandy hit the northeast and almost 90,000 customers are still without power in parts of new york, new jersey, connecticut and west virginia. new york governor andrew cuomo says he'll ask the federal governm
again, i think the problem here for the republicans is the spokespersons of the party, whether mitch mcconnell or john boehner and whoever it might be at the national level, i'm not sure who else that could be at this point, they have to understand that everybody listens now. we live in a different media age. and when you talk in very extreme voices or out-of-touch voices, you alienate voters and you don't win them back when it comes election day. >> great to see both of you. thank you....
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yeah, but it's -- if it's demint versus mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell wins. >> and he's going to win this thing. the question is how do they manage -- >> what do you do? >> -- republican leaders have not figured out how to manage the base. that's a fact. >> the whole campaign on the president level, they get pushed to the right. >> thatd don't know how to manage. >> because of the conservative bubble. on the down ballot level they nominate candidates who come out of that bubble and a policy or -- >> or they did mainstream candidates like george allen who feels the need to placate -- >> of course. and on policy. and on policy, there's a roadblock from moving towards stances on issues like immigration because you're going to get blowback from the base. but keep in mind what happened yesterday township it wasn't just john boehner who moved on immigration. sean hannity said he had evolved on the immigration issue. election type consequences. >> this is the problem i feel like. that your natural tendency in politics is to say, we'll let our voters work their will. that's always there. we'
yeah, but it's -- if it's demint versus mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell wins. >> and he's going to win this thing. the question is how do they manage -- >> what do you do? >> -- republican leaders have not figured out how to manage the base. that's a fact. >> the whole campaign on the president level, they get pushed to the right. >> thatd don't know how to manage. >> because of the conservative bubble. on the down ballot level they nominate candidates who...
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>> and nathan, mitch mcconnell's political issues that are in 2014, both a little concerned about a primary, got to be concerned about a real challenge in a general election, it almost -- won't mcconnell secretly want the president to work around him? he doesn't want to have to be a guy that cuts a deal in either direction? >> if you talk about tax rate increases -- it's still toxic within the republican party. it will take compromise on both sides. >> jim manley said the president has to make it public that he's willing to go over the cliff. if republicans don't believe he's willing to do it, he's handing them a piece of leverage. >> i don't know if he needs to go that far. i think he needs to show some backbone and have more skin in the game is what i would say on this. and i think the republicans are also going to be looking at the fact that in two years, they have to answer to the electorate that said to them, figure it out. >> perhaps. the electorate might look differenty. shameless plugs? >> georgetown, hoyas' season opener. great game. >> my dad came here today. >> mr. gonzales. >> t
>> and nathan, mitch mcconnell's political issues that are in 2014, both a little concerned about a primary, got to be concerned about a real challenge in a general election, it almost -- won't mcconnell secretly want the president to work around him? he doesn't want to have to be a guy that cuts a deal in either direction? >> if you talk about tax rate increases -- it's still toxic within the republican party. it will take compromise on both sides. >> jim manley said the...
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what about nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell? in 2011 it was basically boehner and obama, this time there might be a few more lawmakers who want in on this deal. jenna: the president's going to be sitting down with leaders later on this week. let's talk about style versus substance, something we talked about a lot with the election. i was reading comments from the ceo of at&t today, also the senior economist from bank of america who say, listen, if they'd reach an agreement, great. but if between now and then and the disagreements look really big and bad, that's going to damage this economy because it just shatters any consumer confidence going into the holiday season. >> yes. jenna: so, ultimately, they could find a solution, but damage will already be done. what dueck about that, bob? what do you think about the style to all this as well? >> that's why -- and i agree with that, they're going to need a deal by mid december because it's going to shatter consumer confidence, and the stock market's going to play a big role here. we
what about nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell? in 2011 it was basically boehner and obama, this time there might be a few more lawmakers who want in on this deal. jenna: the president's going to be sitting down with leaders later on this week. let's talk about style versus substance, something we talked about a lot with the election. i was reading comments from the ceo of at&t today, also the senior economist from bank of america who say, listen, if they'd reach an agreement, great....
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. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing go
. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so...
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even mitch mcconnell went to the floor and said, i will consider higher revenues, but the president has to agree to something on entitlements. so the question is, if he does do something, how many democrats can the president bring on board because as you mentioned, the le left, a lot of folks are concerned. people who campaigned for this president don't want him to be throwing him under the bus. >> speaking of the liberal wing of the democratic party, what are you hearing about nancy pelosi's future? >>. she's being mum on that right now. she said tomorrow morning by 10:00 a.m., we'll all know her decision. some of that may leak out beforehand. but right now, she's gauging whether or not she has the political support to keep the control of her spot atop the democratic leadership. she's not saying one way or the other she will stand on board or the democrat from maryland, her number two would assume as the top democratic leader. >> i know the election was a long time ago, but i just wanted to refresh everyone's memories a little bit about what we were talking about in the election. >> i
even mitch mcconnell went to the floor and said, i will consider higher revenues, but the president has to agree to something on entitlements. so the question is, if he does do something, how many democrats can the president bring on board because as you mentioned, the le left, a lot of folks are concerned. people who campaigned for this president don't want him to be throwing him under the bus. >> speaking of the liberal wing of the democratic party, what are you hearing about nancy...